11/17/2008 - Morning Meditation

Ethan up to his old Tricks! A Tiefling is gonna fit him nicely!

Knowing ethan, its probably an amalgam of races that just looks like a tiefling, and he's probably an amalgam of classes as well.

If that was possible, but with current 4E resources, that can't really happen. However, I could easily see Ethan buying up every book and trying to get the MUNCKIN level equipment combo as quick as he possibly can.

I highly believe that if a commoner's wages are measured in copper pieces, then a copper tip in a temple would be just fine. Now, usually, I'd expect more than that, especially if more services were rendered. But for the standard daily duties, without expenditure of spells, a few copper total makes sense.

Oh, and lol Tiefling rogue with high player Wis

Multi-calssing is no longer available, and the only PC races are the ones presented in the Players Handbook.

Actually, a weeks wage is 5 silver, or 50 copper. Assuming a 5 day work week, that's 10 cepper a day, so 1 copper is 1/10 of your wealth which is the amount manny religions ask for theiths.

I just checked, and yes, you are right, untrained hirelings get 1 silver per day, however, a poor meal also costs 1 sp per day.

I see a bit of a problem here if they work 5 days, eat for 7 days and are expected to pay a tithe to the local church.

Oh, Multiclass crazyness can be done, you just have to have to right feats.(and thats not a huge sacrifice in some cases). But it is true, doing the crazy Illithid he had in 3.5 is tough, especially at the start. Equipment combos and such are not unbelievable although.

Well, weren't the only pc races from 3.5 in the 3.5 character's handbook as well, with additions that made it so that you could possibly use certain races as PC's. And what about Mareg than? I don't think he's a halfling warlock. :P

Its always an interesting topic around the dndorks crew when people start mentioning all you "can't" do in 4e.   IMO the multiclassing is better, and it is real multiclassing, and its also the mechanic via Wizards is introducing the equivelent of prestige classes, though some have been introduced as "builds" for classes as well.  And there is a section in the back of the Monster Manual that gives information on how to play as a variety of races, including drow (which is also in the forgotten realms book, and they are better than 3.5, no level adjustment, cool powers, etc).

As far as illithids there aren't rules yet, but there weren't in 3.5 for a long time either.  I think you could make a pretty cool 4e illithid playable race though.

And the problem with workers paying 1 silver for a poor meal and earning 1 silver a day is the same as it is in real life, people shouldn't be eating out constantly unless their income can afford it, if they aren't a wealthy merchant or something they should be cooking at home.  At that point the average worker should be able to earn just enough to get by, with the wife working, and most likely the kid as well. 

The average person in an old medieval (or D&D) village isn't pampered enough to eat every meal in the inn (not even a poor one), have a kid being tutored when they aren't lounging around playing their gamescroll, and a wife who does chores for 3 hours then watching their soap plays the rest of the day.

Speaking of which, what race is Mareg?  I've been wondering that for a while now, and I don't think he's human.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's a made-up race on dndorks' part that's some half-beast man, from the past comics with his old beastman buddy turned enemy.

Mareg is a Shifter.
They're player races (2 kinds) in the Monster Manual.

Isn't he something ripped off from some video game?

He was in 3.5

He was in 3.5, now he's a shifter, still based off the game character, just following the rules now.

He was in 3.5, now he's a shifter, still based off the game character, just following the rules now.